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Oh my, Hamas
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29/01/2006 12:44:36
 
 
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>Hi again
>
>I really doubt we will ever agree in this matter, though. You are condemning an entire nation just because a few. This is at least unfair.

We will agree, in time, when misunderstandings have become clear.
Two of the misunderstandings:
1) condemning
2) few

>The only german's fault was they wanted to change their situation and at that time Hitler seemed to be the solution.

Third misunderstanding: the only fault

>Two years ago I worked for a guy in NJ. The application is sold right now through his webpage. I won't mention the name here (maybe in private, if you want). However, this guy f*cked me badly when it came about the money. I've learned my lesson - I will NEVER EVER repeat my mistake. The guy is Jew (I repeat - I can give you the name if you want). Does this make all Jews bad people? No, in my oppinion. Yes, in yours. Weird. Are you an antisemit? I was ready to swear you aren't, however, you're contradicting yourself. Or maybe it's true only when we are talking about any other nation beside the Jews, which sounds like discrimination to me.

About the 2nd misunderstanding: I have said that it may well be allowed to generalize because over half of all Palestinians have given their vote to the terrorist organization. 'Over half' is a lot more than 'a few'. You might argue that even 'over half' isn't enough to generalize, and that would be an interesting discussion indeed: What percentage is enough to permit generalizing? But you don't search that discussion. Your standpoint is that generalization is never permitted.

We have generalized and hated the Germans for decades. We did not condemn all Germans, but started with an idea about them. In contacts the first thoughts were "How did you think about Jews? Were you a Nazi?". Why did we start with such thoughts? Because they had proven to be anti-semitic and nazis in majority. Was this prejudice? Not as I see it. Was it discrimination? Not as I see it. We knew very well that enough of them had not been anti-semitic and nazi. And we know very well that the young Germans cannot be held responsible for the horrible behavior of their parents.


>Let's come closer Netherlands: Belgium. Most majority of belgium people which came in Romania in last several years proved to be pedophiles masking their activities under so-called children help foundations. One of them was freed from jail 4 days ago, after serving 7 years here - it was in the news. I can't even imagine what that poor SOB had to endure in prison, because child molesters have a "special treatment" in prisons over here, coming from the inmates, not from guards. It's a living hell; guards come and leave, but inmates are there with you all the time - back in 2001 one of these belgium guys commited suicide just to make it stop. I can give you links to this story, if you want - I am not making this up.
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>So: this makes all Belgium people pedophiles? No in my oppinion - one of my best friends is Jean Marie Laeremans, which is an wonderful person. Yes in yours.

Is Jean a wonderful person? If you say so. I haven't noticed it so far. But you're right about the Belgians of course: Generalizing them as pedophiles is not allowed. Eventually (eventually) there may be something in the Belgian society that leads to a higher percentage of criminal pedophiles. But it would always remain a percentage of the people far too low to permit generalization.


>You really should stop categorising nations. You're not in position to do so.

Over seventy familymembers were gassed in the concentrationcamps. This may shed some light on my commitment. But it doesn't mean that only certain people are allowed to have an opinion. Everybody is in a position to have an opinion. You should criticize the opinion, not the position.
Groet,
Peter de Valença

Constructive frustration is the breeding ground of genius.
If there’s no willingness to moderate for the sake of good debate, then I have no willingness to debate at all.
Let's develop superb standards that will end the holy wars.
"There are three types of people: Alphas and Betas", said the beta decisively.
If you find this message rude or offensive or stupid, please take a step away from the keyboard and try to think calmly about an eventual a possible alternative explanation of my message.
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