Terry,

>She talked all about her life, that subject, the film, Van Gogh and incidents like that on the program (Called "The Choice" I think, where people talk about an earth-shattering choice they made in life). I agree - a real hero.
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>I hadn't realised till looking at the URL that this was the same woman I saw a docu. about a few years ago, following her travails at getting INTO Holland. She was almost summarily deported wasn't she, if my memory serves?

Well, the link tells all I think. Yes she was a refugee. And refugees comming to holland through a safe country have to go back to that safe country to ask asylum over there (In her case it was Germany). But somehow managed to stay here.

Walter,

>Terry
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>>>I was just last week listening on Radio 4 to his female colleague who worked on the film with him - can't remember her name - and how she's still living with a fatwah on her head, needs bodyguards etc. So other "people" are involved.
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>>Her name is Ayaan hirsi ali and is a member of our second chaimber. A very brave woman. A story tells that at one time she was eating in a restaurant and a muslim young man cam to her table and said: "I hope you're getting killed". She looked up to the man and gave him a knife on the table and said "Why don't you do it right now ?" The man was stumped and walked away confused. She is objecting against the abuse of women within the islam. The movie "Submission" she made together with van Gogh was exactly about this subject.
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>>http://www.nytimes.com/2005/04/03/magazine/03ALI.html?ex=1270267200&en=7272f7f8332d2c15&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland