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>The conditions in factories owned by corporations may be terrible (and most are worse than terrible), those conditions exist everywhere in China in low-income areas and jobs. It is up to China to set the standards for working conditions in that country. If China had standards set then all corporations would have to abide by them. I think all countries should be pressuring China to enforce employment work condition standards.

I have no problemo with that except that it ain't gonna happen!
They are not about to give up their competitive advantage just for the sake of their masses when it is the masses who are the instruments of creating the wealth for the Party faithful.
And you can't expect countries to pressure them into higher standards when governments are merely puppets for the corporations. The corporations simply won't have it!

There was a time when Communism was "the enemy", in the form of USSR, China, all the East-bloc countries, Viet Nam, North Korea, Cuba. It would have been treasonous to do any kind of business, with modest humanitarian exceptions, with ANY of those countries. The ideas was that when they freed their people they would be worthy trading partners.
Things have changed. Why? Who does it help to have goods made by state-exploited people who have no choices and make a pittance?



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>>>>Historically speaking, it may have been the best if the world gave communism a chance to compete, and fail or succeed on its own merits. Instead, as soon as WWI ended, there was a joint effor to conquer the fledgling USSR, which 1) failed, 2) gave them siege mentality for decades to come, and 3) helped prop the militaristic, authoritarian and utterly tyrannic Joseph Dzhugashvili (self-nicknamed Stalin after steel). Had this capitalism's fear of an idea not resulted in an outright war, we may have seen a healthy competition between the systems in terms of human rights, levels of democracy, technology etc, instead of armament race. Seventy years wasted.
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>>>Communism was tried right here in the US. When Jamestown was founded, it was basically a commune and the people almost died until they decided to give everyone their own plots of land so they could do as they wished (see capitalism). The rest is history, as they say.
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>>>Communism has never worked. It is inherently flawed at any level beyond theory.
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>>But Communism is a societal theory whereas capitalism is strictly a financial mechanism.
>>China is apparently attempting to mix both. I've been expecting it to result in revolution, but it may just be that they have strict enough control to let it work for them
>>"The Party" in China has 68,000,000 members, which is less than 5% of the population and of course it is Party members who reap all the benefits from their current economic 'style'.
>>I can't tell you how deeply it bothers me that we, through our corporations, are actively promoting their exploitation of their citizens.
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