>>>>All 4 (US, Canada, Mexico and Brazil) expanded without the consent of the native peoples. I would imagine without the majority consent of them today. In North America we drowned out their protest with ethnic cleansing, forced relocation, occupation via settlements. They been swallowed up.
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>>>What's your point? We are talking about consent of the governed NOW.
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>>The fact that our ethnic cleaning was so sadistically complete and effective, should convince you even more that Canada and the US are empires, not less.
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>The discussion is whether the US fits the definition of empire NOW. Our establishment as a country has no basis on the arguement, and I fail to see why you keep harping on it.

I'm not harping on it. The empire was created from native lands, and the US and Canada still continue to occupy these lands. We are still empires. The passage of time doesn't erase this. I betcha if you gave any organized native group a chance to cede from either country, they would do it.