Dan,

>>Also, there is the recent report by the United Nations, about Guantanamo. According to the U.N., the prisoners are, indeed, tortured. The torturers, of course, deny everything, and try to discredit the U.N.

>The UN commission that produced the report didn't even bother to go to Guantanamo, despite an invitation to. Their report relied, instead, on information from former detainees.

Do you know what this invitation meant?? Do you know what kind of restrictions they got to do their work. IOW, it was no invitation, it was a political move to find an exuse to debunk any conclusion the UN might come up with. Come on, you knew this. I don't believe you buy this.

Walter,