Hi Cetin

>You could do it programmatically, however creating a new page frame and cut&paste, delete old one takes only a minute or 2:)

Ah, so this problem I have observed is generally known and it is not due to some of my fault that this happens.

Okay, 9 cut-pastes coming up. :) But wait a minute I have put in wait windows in the init() of the pages and they do show the right PageOrder nos. any way to tackle it at run-time or a way to hack the vcx?

Thanks for your response.