>>>>I would not bet on that. I do know the US media and its dirty political biased (Just compare Fox, CBC and CNN for example). The word 'Independed press' has been abandoned a long time ago. The problem is that many US citizens live within a box and really don't have a clue of what goes on outside of it. In their eye the world is the US...
>
>
>>>You would think that of all the news media and blogers in the US, one would report such blatant atrocity as US soldiers opening fire on innocent childern as Metin described.
>
>>I can't comment on that, because I simply do not know. However, since abu ghraib and guantamono bay, it would not surprise me it did happen. But you have to be aware that even if you look at some facts it might not tell the whole story. Usually both sides are guilty of misinformation and keeping information inside.

>If you put it in such a broad general way, anything and very thing is possible.
>But I'm trying to find specifics on a specific issue.

Well see the starting message of this thread, saying that children were tortured to make their fathers talk. It would be very difficult to get any reliable specifics, because both all camps are more of less in propaganda mode. For us as outsiders without any means of check, it is impossible to validate, unless something comes from sources "we" trust. Now that is always the difficult thing, because I won't trust arab media and arabs won't trust western media.

Indeed a difficult dillemma.

Walter,