Way ahead of you, Mike. I'm a huge fan of baseball and always liked the three strikes rule... in this case that would be three attempts to get a point across and/or untwist my twisted, (mis)quoted out of context words. If it doesn't work by then, it ain't ever gonna happen. "Then" was last night.

Oh, and BTW I'm in California. All my coats are in mostly permanent storage. You could always hold my umbrella though... I hear we have a couple rain "events" coming our way shortly.

---J

>I could be a smarta** and offer to hold your coats. But answering seriously, as an independent observer (no preconceptions pro or con about either of you, no opinion about .NET frameworks), I think it is time to let this go and move on. You and Jason are not in a court of law, nor is this a debate tournament. Just shake hands, or give each other the finger if that makes you feel better, and move on. In the time the two of you have invested in this thread you could have gotten a healthy start on writing your own frameworks.