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Another example of modern 'MBA-style' ethics???
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13/03/2006 18:46:04
 
 
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Forum:
Science & Medicine
Category:
Experiments
Miscellaneous
Thread ID:
01103811
Message ID:
01104002
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>>>>Sure, your scenario is heartbreaking. But guess what... heartbreak is happening every day on all kinds of illnesses/trauma while trials are being done in properly controlled FULLY patient-informed setups.
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>>>Controlled setups of a fatal amount of blood loss?
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>>>You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>There you go again, Mike. Got no valid argument so go the insult route.
>>Did you read the link?... They are doing a "controlled setup"!!! Of course their idea of "controlled" is highly dubious for sure, but nevertheless, that's what they are calling it.
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>This is what the parent link of the cited web page says:
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>http://irb.ucsd.edu/notices/polyheme/
>Research Project Title:
> A Phase III, Randomized, Controlled, Open-Label Multicenter, Parallel Group Study Using Provisions for Exception from Informed Consent Requirements Designed to Evaluate the Safety and Efficacy of Poly SFH-P Injection [Polymerized Human Hemoglobin (Pyridoxylated) PolyHeme®] When Used to Treat Patients in Hemorrhagic Shock Following Traumatic Injuries Beginning in the Prehospital Setting.
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>Study Purpose:
> To evaluate the life-saving potential of PolyHeme® when given to severely injured and bleeding patients, starting at the scene of injury.
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>"Prehospital setting" and "at the scene of injury" are the important phrases.
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>Your suggestion is that people who are going to suffer a life threatening blood loss should pre-emptively acquire a bracelet if they want PolyHeme to be an option in the fight for survival.
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>Your so concerend about the powers that be that you openly advocate preventable deaths to injury victims because it is preferable being a possible victim of government deception.

No, I'm concerned about deception period.
A must opt-out scheme with nothing evident even telling the involved population about what's going on is deceptive.
An alleged "random" administration has a high possibility - and I'd say probability for the drugs business - of being less than truly "random".
The site stated that those opposed for whatever reason can opt out. How were such people informed of this option? If you don't know its going on, it's awfully hard to opt out.

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>You should discuss this at length with family and friends, and perhaps they'll recommend a good therapist for you.

There you go again. Leave out the insults and try to make some sense for a change.
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