>>This is the reason that Jesus was crucified, to pay my sins, our sins..
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>I thought the reason was that he was a political troublemaker that Romans wanted to get rid of.

:-)

Just for the records.. On that time.. the worse government's punishment were 39 whips (I'm not sure about this name in english) ..because 40 was enough to kill a man.. After countless whips (more than 200) and after a crown of thorns on his head, and nailed in the cross.. Jesus says a text wroted almost 1000 years before of this event, prophetizing his coming..

Here is what Jesus said.. "My God, My God, why have you abandoned me? Why are you so far away when I groan for help? Every day I call to you, my God but you do not answer.." Psalm 22

Now, let's imagine, we with a very little single pain, we loose for completelly our capacity to think.. Maybe after one whip we can even remember our own name..

hehe.. well.. great performance for a simple "political troublemaker".. But there is many other evidences that JESUS CHRIST is a little more than a "troublemaker".. Try to study a little more about him.. For sure, after this if you do not taste a full TRANFORM() in your life, at least better argumentation you'll have to talk about him..

But, the most curios thing on pslam 22 it is in the end.. "..Future generations will hear about the wonders of the Lord. His righteous acts will be told to those not yet born. They will hear about everything he has done."

PS: Psalm 22 was wrote more than 3 thousand years ago..

If you need any other help to understand that JESUS is a little more than "political troublemaker".. Feel free to reply this thread! :-)

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>No karma banking, eh?
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To believe in karma, it is to deny for completelly the life and acts of Jesus.. As I said to you before, the only difference between any man on the earth it is the faith on God son, God Father and the Holy Spirit.. karma says that on every new life our spirit grows.. By itself this idea doesn't have any sense.. Do you know any man on your neightbohood different than you ?

Man.. here in my city every man that I know has the same sins that I have.. they coming from the same dutty sand than me..

Where is those almost perfect people that karma talks about? I don't know anyone!

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>Ah, but then how many other words need interpretation? Probably most of them, from what I've seen. And there, almost inevitably, arises a caste of interpreters, who make a living on your beliefs, tell you what to do... but I wrote about that before.

Always when we talk about bible's interpretation, I recall the history of a father that send a letter to his daugther on university.. And she decide to cut in many pieces every pharagraph.. From now on there is no necessity to tell you what she did with his message..

More than this there is many and many people that never has open a blible and has his own opnion for the subject.. But, the best advise for those people is: Take a read on the bible!! A little more, try some books of new testament.. Nice reading: John, Matthew, James, etc..

Claudio