If you really want to - you can specify NOINIT for any class and take care of the instantiation yourself Arnon >Thanks for the reply. Are there any events which fire from the outside in? > >- Gerry > >>INIT events fire in order from the inside out. Innermost objects fire before their containers. Since the pageframe contains the textbox, the textbox is looking for the array before the pageframe init code runs. You could place this code in the Form Load, or perhaps in the textbox Init at the very latest. >> >>-- >>Jerry