>John,
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>If we are going to be ruled by laws, then it seems only logical that we enforce them.
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>Sure- man-made laws are supposed to support our aspirations as nations, so they should be observed or changed before we fall into decadence. But laws of nature don't care what we think, they just get on with it!
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>Otherwise, we might turn into some third world country like say oh hmmm, New Ze.... nah, just kidding....<vbg>
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>Some people consider that NZ will be the first country in history to fall from the first world into the third world. But that isn't true- Zimbabwe was years ahead ;-)

If not a joke then that is interesting, John.

AFAIK NZ was the 1st country with a "welfare state" and social security, even before GB. I know that now the weldfare state has been paired down somewhat, but in what way may it "fall from grace" (Jeez you could all live off Lord of the Rings for a few decades without anyone working, I'd have thought :-)