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04/04/2006 15:56:46
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Politics
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01109668
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>>>>>>>Well said, Alan. Very much in line with my views on all this. I do not believe that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are any threat to national security or even to job security. Clearly, though, some are and we ought to work harder at identifying those. We should find a way to regularize the rest.
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>>>>>>>As for the future, anyone who wants to come here and work at a legal occupation to build a new life should be welcome. No quotas.
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>>>>>>Then, I think I (for sure) and you (most likely) be out of the job very quickly. You know how many PhDs in software development and good command of English (in Russia, Bulgaria, and so on) are only wishing that your word would come true. They will come here and work for 1/10th of our wages and will do just as good of a job. They will bring their extended family who will immediately go to our public schools, nursing homes, with all kind of special education, transportation, fuel assistance, etc.
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>>>>>>I think in this case we will be better off in Mexico (I am already speaking some spanish) <g>.
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>>>>>I think you're missing at least part of the point, Dmitry. Nobody should have to work for 1/10th of a proper wage. If you come here, you should be paid a proper living wage in line with what others make. Then the job market will depend on talent and work ethic rather than becoming a slave market where the hirers will inspect you in the town square and check your teeth.
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>>>>No, I think you, Alan, are missing a point <g>. We live in free market economy. Supply and demand. If the doors are open to anybody (as Tamar and you seem to wish), to come here and work and build their lives, there will be not thousands but 100s of thousands of excellent developers. Therefore, the wage will go down for EVERYBODY. How would you like those apples? <g>.
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>>>You would be hard pressed to survive in such an economy. We have legal immigrants working here now, and they earn a proper salary. You are forecasting a slave economy, and I doubt very much that it would be allowed to happen. I don't agree necessarily with quotas, but there needs to be some regulation to make sure the system is sustainable. Canada is a large place, but everyone seems to want to come to Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver. If that doesn't change, there would be problems. We also need to find a way to cull out the troublemakers. Those people who insist on bringing along their political hatreds and racial baggage. We have enough of our own idiots born here that we can't deport anywhere. We don't need to import extras from elsewhere.
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>>I agree with you, it would be VERY hard to survive in such economy. But this is what WILL happen if anybody can come here, no quotas and work legally. Keep in mind that people who would come here from other countries don't need much to survive, they are used to very little. So they will be happy for the most part.
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>Not after even more come to lower their living again. No, eventually there would be a revolution if that kept happening.
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Eventually there would be mess, that's for sure <g>.
"The creative process is nothing but a series of crises." Isaac Bashevis Singer
"My experience is that as soon as people are old enough to know better, they don't know anything at all." Oscar Wilde
"If a nation values anything more than freedom, it will lose its freedom; and the irony of it is that if it is comfort or money that it values more, it will lose that too." W.Somerset Maugham
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