The term 'argument' can be taken as 'point of view', which is how
I meant it.


>>I've heard that argument before.
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>>The immigrant should have thought of that before they snuck across the border.
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>Who's making arguments? It was a question. I agree with you. Way I see it, I can offer real value and I'm not allowed in, so why should illegals be allowed?
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>>>Hi Kevin
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>>>Here's a hypothetical question. Suppose two illegal immigrants have children. Are the children US citizens or not?
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>>>If one illegal immigrant has children, what of them? The illegal is deported regardless?
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>>>Our previous police chief used to complain that a person would be deported for criminal activity only to return. The different branches of the government leave too many holes.
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>>>>I don't know the exact figures. I don't need to know the exact figures.
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>>>>The cost of removing the illegals is a one time fee. It's a startup
>>>>cost, so to speak. You assume this going in. The real question is the
>>>>long term.
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>>>>Assume there were 100k american taxpayers getting medical care at
>>>>hospitals in California in 2005 using health benfits they paid for.
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>>>>Assume there were 100k illegal alians getting medical care at
>>>>hospitals in California in 2005. The law says they MUST be treated.
>>>>Who's paying for the illegals to get medical care? The taxpayers are.
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>>>>Multiply this by 10 years, or 20 years, and it doesn't take complex
>>>>mathmatical computations to see that the long term benefit of removing
>>>>the illegals.
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>>>>And that's just medical care. Figure in housing costs, schools, welfare
>>>>and so on, and it becomes alot clearer.
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>>>>Illegal immigration costs 10.5 billion per year:
>>>>http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm
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>>>>While the cost of removing them mighrt be higher, it's a one time fee
>>>>that I bet most taxpayers would gladly pay.
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>>>>>>No, I don't
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>>>>>>But I do know that while there might be some significant cost to eliminate the
>>>>>>illegal immigrants, the long term benefits justify it.
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>>>>>I don't see how you can know that without assuming that $Y is an initial lump sum and the following years will see much lower values for $Y.
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>>>>>That doesn't seem like a good assumption to me.