>>Decades? Ack! I'm really hoping one way or the other this is resolved in something that can only be measured in fractions of one decade. I'd like us gone within the next year or two.
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>>You might like to read up about the Roman occupation of Britain- another invasion that had to deal with armed insurgents and a suspicious population. In the end they had to build a wall in the North to keep the Scottish terrorists out! ;-) That wall was built 180 years after Julius Caesar first decided to occupy the place. ;-)
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>As I recall it was the Pict’s (original inhabitants of the area who were not Celtic or English) that lived in the north and were constantly attacking the tribes in the south.

Tom, they could hardly be English cos, as you say below, the Angles didn't invade till after the Romans were gone. The inhabitants were Britons then, of several different tribes.

Celts are not a race; in fact it's hard to put a finger on what celtic actually means. There are several nations talking of their celtic past, albeit a type of cross, a way of dressing, the worship of certain pagan gods before, et al, but there is no celtic bloodline per se.

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>Originally, an earthen wall was built by the Roman’s but proved to be ineffective. Hadrian's Wall was built of stone and completed around 132 AD, and Antonine Wall (also built of stone) was built a few years later.
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>The Scot's did not inhabit Scotland until about 500 AD, and are one of the five Irish tribes so they had nothing to do with the Roman’s. The Scot’s migrated from Northern Ireland. Tell that to a Scot and see what happens! :)
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>A major problem the Roman’s faced in Brittan was that the people they were trying to defend from the invaders of the north were not interested in defending themselves. You could say that after the Roman’s left a few German tribes took over and created England.

Well they created eventually kingdoms: Wessex (West Saxons), Essex (east Saxons), Sussex (south Saxons), East Anglia (where the Angles settled), Mercia, etc., then the Danes moved in and created a Danish enclave - all this before Angleland->Ingleland->England came to be. (Interesting that it's Angleterre in French and Inglaterra in Italian)

Terry