Hi James

>But, why do you say there's a difference between .objects and .columns? Are there some circumstances where the two are not identical for a grid? (Remember, I have been using .objects successfully for a long time.)

No offense intended, but the statement "been doing it for a long time" and spouting statistics like 100K lines of code does not mean things are done right. If a smoker says, I've smoked 500K cigarettes in my life, does that mean they're doing the right thing? ;)

To me it just seems right and sensible to refer to .columns if you're iterating columns. .objects applies to containers and forms. Maybe it's existence on grids is a side-effect or stub feature.

.columns only applies to grids.

HTH