>>You gonna make us guess what your definition is?
>>On the surface it sounds like mine, but apparently its different and a secret :)
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>I got into a very long "discussion" about another "new" idea. I was unable to articulate or they were unable to understand. I'm not prepared to go through that again. Sorry.
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Do you have a link to that discussion?

Otherwise it looks like your ideas contradict Robert's ideas, but in fact you're saying exactly the same thing. We now all curious to see this subtle difference.