>>I've had such data entry grids on several projects in the last four years, and they all worked great. Sometimes I had the layout that MikeY describes (data entry above, navigation in the grid below), sometimes the one I mentioned (narrow navig. grid on the left), sometimes I had a huge entry grid which took most of the form's area (because such was the nature of the data - had one huge sparse table that needed a lot of adding and editing). In all of these, I managed to get away with nothing but textboxes (often subclassed), checkboxes and sometimes a commandbutton. Actually, had one container as well :).
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>Just FYI, that is not the design I'm describing. I think it was Mike Sue-Ping you're referring to.

Confuse the curtain, I got pulled down... meaning this thread is already too long :).