Again you have ignored what I wrote and lied about my beliefs to support your own opinion.

>It is not a lie. You have this wild fantasy that those who opose your point of view do so because they wish the US to fail.

Wrong again. I have merely stated that there are people who wish the US to fail in Iraq. I have never accused a single individual by name, I have merely stated that they exist.

Purposly claiming as fact things that I have never advocated or said myself is lying. Try responding to what is written rather than ranting.

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>I have a view that those who have this eternal optimism are incredibly ignorant with little to no consience.

You are entitled to your wrong opinion

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>We have created this he*lhole in the middle east with no end in site. Death and destruction everyday. Growing worse. If it all stopped tomorrow, how many families who've lost loved ones will be happy?

How much worse would it get if it all stopped tomorrow? We have an obligation to see the mission through. You don't believe we can succeed, fine, I do. History will judge.

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>How many returning vets who find themselves lost in society, with no support, no job to return to will be happy?

I believe all agree that our veterans should be taken care of by the best medial and psychiatric care available.

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>>>3) Jake refuses to acknowledge this. As it will make his entire argument collapse. To him everything is great. On the radio today, they were discussing how people in Baghdad don't go out at night, don't hang out in large groups. A reporter in Baghdad said that today the city is one of the most dangerous in the world. Great way to have to live.
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>>Another lie. A have never once claimed that all is great. I have simply pointed out that all is not lost as you wish to portray.