>>>>Saddam Hussein went out of his way to make people believe he still had the weapons
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>>Making people beleive you have weapons doesn't mean you actually have them. Disinformation is
>>sowed all the time. No great secret here. Do you attack soley on this?
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>>It's the responsibility of the Commander in Chief to know if the WMD's really existed before he
>>ordered this war. Truth is, he didn't really want to know. Weapons or not, we were goint to attack.
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>i have to disagree on a point here. it is surely the job of the intelligence agencies to know if there are WMD's and the CIC's job to decide what action to take. i do agree that he was going to attack and nothing was going to stop him, i believe that someone who resigned from his office has stated that W had said that he wanted to invade iraq even before 911.

I saw a news article once that discussed Rumsfeld's position on the war. It said that the day after
9/11, Rummy called the pentagon and put into motion plans to invade Iraq.

The day after! We had no clue the day after who had attacked us.



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>>>>We shouldn't leave Iraq until we're finished there, and not a moment before.
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>>Define 'finished there'?
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>>We certainly are in it for the long hual now. Problem is, Bush went into this with no end-game plan, and
>>he still has not end-game.
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>no matter what happens there will always be people there who will want the US out, finished is along way off even if we just consider that getting the countries infrastructure back to prewar levels, there are years to go. my bet is that you will see a symbolic few thousand troups returning home, reducing the permanent detachment, about a month before the elections. W's legacy cannot now be a based on any gret foreign relations shift, time will of course tell but he will leave office having not accomplished a lot of what he planned to do, even domestically, and that is even when he has control of 3 branches.

Like the saying goes "Bush: Nothing Accomplished"