I actually find it kind of interesting, yet in a sad sort of way, that there at least 2 thought processes I've seen.

Yours, where you are willing to debate events, although it doesn't mean opinions will change. But at least you are fairly down to earth.

And someone like Jake, who believes the govt soooo much, he is willing to parade around and be proud of Center for New American Progress. Even though this is at the root of much of what has turned people against the war in Iraq. Including many throughout the rest of the world.

>>Bush didn't necessarily personally have something to gain, but those who had his ear have been waiting for a long time for 9-11 to occur. They required a "Pearl Harbor type event" to move forward with their plans.
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>Methinks you've been reading too many spy novels.