Hi,
Looks like it is only you & me that can see thru the bs that is being spread, the only way these models work is if hot air descends, and guess what it doesn't.

> One of your points about the air rising hits home. Doesn't it cool at a rate of something like 2 degrees farenheit per 1000 ft above sea level? I've seen this when travelling to the mountains and my airplane pilot buddies have told me about that for years.

Yes the cooling is called the lapse rate.

The other point I just thought of is that, if it worked the way they are saying we would all be gasping for breath down here at sealevel, as all the air would be up at about 30,000 feet, that hot that it wouldn't be able to descend.

But then again we appear to be living in a vaccuum, a mental one that is.