Okay, I've finally had almost marginal success with creating a useful view. I've even figured out that I needed a paramatized view and succeeded in having view appear as a grid on a page in my form. It even moves to the correct record when I click my next button which is tied to my parent table. Sounds good so far. My keypress method (down arrow)is supposed to add a new record to the table the view is based on, and it does. HOWEVER, I can't get the grid to refresh (yes, I've tried requery)unless I move to a new record and then back, in which case I can see the new entry. Any suggestions? TIA --lincoln