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12/07/2006 13:54:26
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
 
 
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>>stuffing the supreme court with loyal guys doesn't necessarily mean they're loyal to you. They may be loyal to the law and constitution first. Tough.
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>Ummm, Bush only picked nominated one of the justices who ruled on this. Hardly a "stuffing".

Yeah, the other one had to recuse himself because he wrote the paperwork which made Gitmo possible, AFAIK. Nice.

>Besides, Bush has gone further than the Court suggested.

I just hope it isn't just lip service, or another attempt to divert attention from other issues.

>>I do, just not sure where's the business end of this weapon aimed. I just assume, just in case, that whatever I say or write anywhere may be collected, analysed and stored somewhere.
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>How would you suggest we follow our enemies movements? Phone records, bank transactions, internet traffic all seem reasonable to me.

I assume these are fair game among spies. It's the illegal part that's illegal. Bypassing the FISA court (which was rubberstamping thousands of orders anyway) is what makes it illegal.

>Especially considering the congressional oversight being applied. Reviews ever couple weeks, weekly intelligence briefings, judicial oversight. These have all been involved since day one, which by the way is why no legal challenge will hold up.

No they weren't involved from day one. The NSA eavesdropping behind the back of the FISA court went on for more than a year, and only a selected few (six, IIRC) senators knew about it, but were sworn not to tell. Then they were accused for not telling.

>Personally I admit that it is creepy the amount of survailence we are under, but that's the world we live in today. Cameras on every corner and dangerous people using the same institutions we rely on for illicit means. As I repeatedly say, we have choices. If you don't want to be tracked then take all of your money in cash, stuff it in a sack, move to the middle of Montana in a shack with a well and no electricity and raise chickens. That way you'll be sure that the only thing Uncle Sam knows about you is whether you've paid your taxes or not.

There are ways... the best way to lie is to tell 99% verifiable truth and be smart about the 1%.

>What specifically did Bremer's authority not do?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/4/27/133647/157
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/04/25/1343214 for the full interview.

Off to lunch now, but I could find more.

back to same old

the first online autobiography, unfinished by design
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