>>>>I agree. A Husband is to love his wife and live with her in an understanding way. He is to love his wife as Christ loved the church - of course - He was willing and did die for the church...
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>>>The Church? What Church was that?
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>>>When Christ died he died a Jew. There was no Church, no Christians, no Catholics, no Protestants, no Baptits and all the thousand other sects. He died because he run afoul of the Romans, their customs and their laws. The Church you speak of was founded decades later by some other people. But you knew that already.
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>>Ephesians 5:24-26
>>24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her 26to make her holy, cleansing[a] her by the washing with water through the word,
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>Ok. Ephesians 5:24-26, thanks for the pointer.
>Again, what Church are they referring to? There was no Christian Church in 33 A.D. or thereabouts.
>We both know that.
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I guess you missed the part about Christ dying for me as well...while I wasn't around at the time, I believe His death was for me and for those like me who make up the church. It doesn't really matter when the church started - guess I don't really see the point of the question.
>Help me here. I do not know what Church they refer to in that passage. Maybe he was a member of a Church unknown to me. I always understood he was Jewish, died without repenting, converting or contrived to create a new church in his life. I may be wrong on this one, if so please site a historical reference, (not a circular reference, i.e. the Bible itself), or maybe that passage you quoted is simply wrong.
I believe the church can also be called "The Body of Christ." It's not a building. It's not just a local gathering of people. It's made up of those past, present and future who trust in the work of Christ as their salvation.
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