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Are you ready for the rapture??
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24/07/2006 01:38:50
 
 
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21/07/2006 18:19:02
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
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Zrenjanin, Serbia
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I've thought about this since the day I first stepped into my human behavior class in 1985 at University of Texas at Dallas.

The professor also stated the question in another way.
He asked if humans are bascially good, why do we need laws? He gave hints of what he thought, but did not answer it directly.

Personally, I think humans are basically bad but have the ability to be good. As you and Alan have already said, some of the "bad" things are born out of our instinct to survive. But I think some other "bad" behaviors are from our natural urge to be greedy and selfish. Good behavior is learned. As I watch my child interact with other kids, he needs to learn how to share and how to be considerate to others.



>>>The particular definition of good, though, would exclude any violence and coercion - and then, that's a social thing. If you mean "naturally" as "regardless of society" then your question is meaningless. With a single human, without others, the homo sapiens can't express its substance as zoon politikon, a social being, and there's no context in which the very idea of good can exist.
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>>In this case I was thinking socially is man naturally "good". Does he get along well with others naturally. Is he naturally generous and kind to others? Or is his natural tendancy to steal, cheap and murder?
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>If there was any "natural" tendency to anything, it wouldn't have a chance to surface, because this social being always takes on characteristics of the society - by imitation, by opposition, by adoption or by just not thinking at all. IOW, I think the question of any "natural behavior" can't go further than hunger, sleep and avoid bumping one's head. And even that's influenced by social mores - you don't eat in the opera, don't sleep on the job and bump your head only when extremely frustrated.
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>The whole idea of "natural behavior" I think comes from XVII century humanists, probably Rousseau (the idea of "noble savage") and some Christian churches which try to persuade their flock that humans are naturally evil and need to be guarded from each other, and in the next step offer themselves as guardians.
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>I'd rather look into crime rates, prison population, role models, poverty rate, educational levels, proclaimed ideals and a few other parameters to decide whether a citizen of a particular culture has more good than bad traits.
The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money.
- Alexis de Tocqueville

No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
– Mark Twain (1866)
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