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Lebanon for now, Who is next ?
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24/07/2006 14:27:11
 
 
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24/07/2006 13:57:56
Dragan Nedeljkovich (Online)
Now officially retired
Zrenjanin, Serbia
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>>>What if Israel offered, out of the blue, to return into pre-1967 borders and stop bombing Gaza, and open the border between Gaza and Egypt? Both Hamas and Hezbollah (and Fatah, for that matter) would immediately lose any support if they kept fighting after that. They'd lose their primary reason to exist. They'd be destroyed politically. And... wasn't that the goal of Israel?
>>
>>Camp David 2000?
>>73% of the West Bank which rises to 94% over time
>>100% of Gaza
>>Dual states
>>Control of East Jerusalem
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_2000_Summit
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>>Rejected by Arafat for the exact reason you stated : "They'd lose their primary reason to exist. They'd be destroyed politically."
>
>The article you link to also links to a dissenting opinion, which is (interestingly) held by a few scholars with Jewish names: http://www.lewrockwell.com/wanniski/wanniski36.html - specially this: "This is what fed the no-partner-for-peace theory that the Bush administration, despite not believing a word the Clinton administration had to say on anything, hardily adopted and used as an excuse, as a reason to not get involved in negotiations."
>Accidentally, just minutes before reading your message, I heard again (on NPR, which is IMO run by a disproportionate number of such names) that Arafat is blamed for not accepting the offer to have Palestine in disconnected cantons, surrounded by Israeli troops. Then some of blame is placed on him for not coming up with a counterproposal.

Arafat's counter-proposal is still in effect.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Intifada

>Though, that was Albright's tactic - wave a proposal which sounds almost good, then on 2nd or 3rd day of the conference come up with a new version which will obviously be rejected by the other side, but don't let out the details of that version until much later, when the spotlights are aimed elsewhere. Meanwhile, orchestrate the media to blame the refusing side for the failure of negotiations, knowing that the image will stick. Exactly the same thing she did in Rambouillet the year before.

Another of my favorite Albright tactics is to negociate a treaty and celebrate with a great feast while wearing her new fabulous brooch. Then years later, when you discover that the other signee has broken every part of their side of the agreement, blame the new administration. See N. Korea.
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