Cetin, i learn things new every day. i didn't know you "invented" it.

every time i see code, i have to familiarize myself with what's going on. I'm sure most people here would understand exactly what you've done here, but not me. Now that I've "experimented" a little, i see. For example, I have never used scatter, although i've seen it used a lot. Therefore, i didn't know what "scatter name" or what "blank" means. Once i figured it out, in that the "name" creates an object, and the "blank" makes it have empty properties (just like createobject("empty")), i thought that this simple code was pretty cool.

Why didn't you simply use the "line" object? i know it does have some properties but i thought it was often used before "empty" came about (at least the official MS version of "empty") :-)

Paul