Rather than pounding your head on the desk in frustration trying to move controls around on a Toolbar (only to have VFP try to snap them in where *it* wants to), try the following:

1) Create a Container object. Make it BorderWidth=0 and BackStyle=0 (transparent). Put all your CommandButtons or whatever you like in the container.

2) Now create your ToolBar and drop an instance of the Container class in it.

Just make sure you use syntax like tbrMain.conMain.cmdModule rather than tbrMain.cmdModule.