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>>BTW Al, that bottom box you claimed as yours <s>, could have been cleaned up nicely with just a couple of ties - that's what I'd have hung the routers up with. ;-)
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>Yeah, that job is not really as bad as it first appears. The judges probably gave them a bunch of demerits when they opened the panel and the routers practically fell in their laps :)

I agree - apples and oranges. Fortune 999 server rooms vs the closet behind the deep fat fryer in Mama Tinelli's Pizzaria. What can you expect? My wife used to work for a guy that liked to get his hands dirty and do his own closet work. That 'non-winner' is beautiful, in retrospect. Wish I had a picture of that one...