I wish I could speak in guarantees, but all I can tell you is Robert Green is working very hard with the certification group at MS to make this happen. At the time of determining the new MCSD track (announced at TechEd) it was not yet a completely "done deal" on development of the VFP MOC courseware. Now that we've nailed that down, I am very confident that Robert and his staff will pull this off. Just don't you dare throw this back at me if it doesn't happen *bg* !