>>>I'll tell you what to do, try to hold this 1KG magnet at arms length for say 2 hours, you will soon find out how much work is being expended, you will probably drop it after about 20mins due to fatigue, there is a large flow of energy.
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>>Sure, you can waste energy this way. You might also conceive of something blowing an object up, using up energy.
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>So you are saying that there is entropy (wasted energy) when you hold the magnet, but none when it is attached by magnetic attraction to a perpendicular steel plate. Sorry you can't have one without the other.
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>I ask once again, where does the energy come from that powers the magnetic clamping force.
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>>No energy, as long as there is no movement.
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>Ah, a force appied with no energy expended, this would be an over unity process, not possible in the current model.
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>>You don't need energy simply to maintain a force.
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>I am sorry but you do need energy to maintain a force, you have just highlighted the flaw in the current model.

You can support a weight with a post, for example. The post doesn't need fuel to continue working - it can continue supporting the weight almost indefinitely.

The only flaw is a confusion between "energy" and "force".

To calculate energy used to move something, you calculate force x distance x cosine of the angle. (If the force is in the same direction as the movement, the cosine of the angle is 1.)

So to support a weight of 100 N, the energy needed (in theory) is 100 N x 0 m x 1 = 0 J. Any energy above that is the result of an inefficient process. Like, using your muscle force instead of a post to support something.