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Cheney condones waterboarding torture
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31/10/2006 16:41:15
Hilmar Zonneveld
Independent Consultant
Cochabamba, Bolivia
 
 
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31/10/2006 13:20:05
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When you said "it's hard for me to have any sympathy", it does sound as if you are equating the terrorist suspects (many of whom may actually be innocent), with torturers.

Some of my other points are actually not 100% related to things you said, but rather to problems I see with the attitude of the U.S. government.

>You're reading WAY too much into what I said.
>
>
>>>Ah.
>>>Perhaps you have a point.
>>>
>>>But I think US has long way to go before they master the fine art of drilling holes into a live knee caps and cutting off various body parts of an enemy. So, it's hard for me to have any sympathy.
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>>I see several problems with this argument, in fact, far too many to list here, but I will mention a few of the main points.
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>>1. If you hit my children, am I then entitled to hit your children? - The people tortured by the United States are not necessarily the same as the ones that tortured U.S. citizens. You can't equate the people of an entire country with their government, or with an extremist group in that country.
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>>2. The U.S. government has, indeed, participated in more severe cases of torture. The fact that they delegated this to other countries doesn't make them any less guilty - I wonder whey they even bothered to outsource the torturing.
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>>3. The U.S. president has repeatedly stated that the U.S. government doesn't condone torture. This is now clearly exposed as a lie.
Difference in opinions hath cost many millions of lives: for instance, whether flesh be bread, or bread be flesh; whether whistling be a vice or a virtue; whether it be better to kiss a post, or throw it into the fire... (from Gulliver's Travels)
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