>You make the call. The part in question is at the 2:13 mark of the video:
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>http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/09/rumsfelds-finger-wave/

Perry, you have really gone hard core if you would sit and watch a video for two minutes plus just to see whether Donald Rumsfeld flipped someone the bird or not <g>. Besides, at this point he is the flippee, is he not? <g>