>>>Regardless, is it not how some are attempting to define 'marriage' for all of us? Is it not "the law"? All this talking about 'marriage' is useless until we define what we're discussing.
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>>I was referring to your use of "genital". As a noun it's only used in the plural and refers to the sexual organs, hence b***s
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>Ah, thanks. Oh the places we go. So I'll update that to "Marriage is: 1) Genitals-based"

That's not the point. If you're married, ask your wife if she thinks that your marriage is based on your gonads, and I think she'll be a bit disappointed with you.
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>>Howard Bennet. He's our friendly-neighbourhood religious zealout on this forum. I assumed everyone knew him as we've practically all had rambling zig-zag arguments with him all over the place, over his religious purity and implacability. Just look up "George Bush" thread. :-)
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>Ha!!!!! I get it. No, "Howard" doesn't redeem my family name much. "Tony" could. In fact, I paid $100 to see this 80yo dude sing me euphoric recently. Uh-oh, off-topic.

AH, the British "Pop Idol" show (on which "American Idol" is based) is now called "The X Factor". Tony Bennet was over here doing workshops with the contestants on the "crooners week". Amazing he can still cut the mustard at that age.