>Very hipocrytal of you two, talking in this thread about how enlightened and tolerant you are and mocking someone for his believes

You may have a really great point here Hugo. My teasing reference of Howard assumes he's as enlightened and tolerant as I am about such things. So shame on me. See, I don't mind taking a ribbing about my beliefs but I guess it could very well be a travesty to expect so much from another and shouldn't go about expecting it. Without asking first especially!

Thanks for showing me the error of my ways.