Sorry, I was thinking of Set filter to .T., not .F. as in your case. Anyway, a grid is not a good choice to work with large tables. Personally I always use cursors as controlsource for grids, and add code to update the "mother" table whenever I select new data for the grid. Some more code, but it's much faster, plus it gives your user an automatic undo option.

>oh maaan.
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>i don't want to remove the filter.. set filter to .f. si equal to set filter to 1=0.
>i just want to hide everything in the grid. i use vfp 8:)
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>thanks