>It's a lost cause Tracy. His definition of 'natural' is simply this:
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It is what I believe according to my interpretation of the bible.
>Therefore, it is true and there can be no other truth.

>Whatever you argue or question, he will interpret the bible, no matter how tortured that interpretation might be, in a way that accords with his own pre-defined belief systems. It is the nature of blind faith based 'logic'.

All religions are false, if you ask any other religion :).