And just when you think the thread is dead....Someone pops up with more idiotic statements.

I can't believe you too have such a small mind you feel the need to frame everything in terms of "conservative", "liberal", "republican", "democrat".

The basic, bottom line point is that with one party in charge of all electable positions in the Fed govt, oversite 100% disappeared. Dont' you find it just a mite bit strange the number of investigations into Clinton for an extramarital affair vs. bush for lying to get the country involved in a no-win war.

Show me someone whose not a mouthpiece for the admin. who thought invading Iraq had anything to do with the "war on terrorism". The world was behind us when we invaded Afghanistan to go after the Taliban. The world hates us now that we've turned the middle east region into a deep quagmire.

Not to mention bushes assault on science. His total lack of understanding of international affairs.....etc, etc.

You keep framing all that's happened in the last couple years as the whining of liberals attacking bush. That shows you've totally missed the point. Not even close. I hope you show far more ability to understand your clients when designing software systems.

K St became a symbol of corruption at the highest levels. And I've not heard one word of contrition from De Lay. Still convinced he was the victim of a witch hunt.

Our govt became the laughingstock of the world. Bottomline, we needed a change to help restore some respectability, not to mention accountability.

>I can't believe this thread is still going...
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>Anyhow, what I enjoy watching is that the Dems are naming (or trying to name) corrupt members like Hastings and the like to committee chairs after two years of whining about the "culture of corruption".
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>I think we're looking at a political situation that is way too complex to get into here, but it boils down to the folks in power are not the ones who actually won the elections and resonated with the electorate. So we have this weird dichotomy.
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>I'm going to have so much fun the next two years watching the leftist Dems get their butts handed to them. They have already begun selling out "principles". As if they ever had them.
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>>Not moi. I'm only stating that their are built in safeguards to help incumbents maintain their seats in future elections. And it would take things like a right-wing fundamentalist associated with a place like "jesus camp" to come out of the closet. Or a war that some say is going swimmingly, while the nightly news says otherwise. Or congressmen to basically hang shingles outside their office announcing what their bribe rates are......
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>>But all these things could never happen at the same time. Who would believe that????
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>>>>Thru the magic of gerry mandering districts and earmarks, it's almost impossible for the incumbents to loose. It takes something dramatic, such as what we've seen over the last several years for a change to take place.
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>>>Are you imply that the Bush administration is incompetent? :-D