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03/01/2007 15:46:59
 
 
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Did I ever promise you 'perfect world'? Say thank you if current one will stay as it is.
Btw, acquitted murderer is not better than convicted innocent, and first case is much more common.

>Nonsense. Innocent people have been put on death row many times. In some cases that we know of, DNA evidence has exonerated them in time, but if you are contending that there are no cases of innocents being executed just because the system stops worrying about it after they're dead, then how can I get a pass into your perfect world?
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>>Purpose of Law is to serve justice, and the only way to avoid mistakes is to do nothing. Imo, you grossly distort law and social fabrics by assuming that our days some innocents could be convicted to death. It may happen sometimes that some scoundrels would be punished escessively, i.e. to death instead of life term, but this doesn't make them innocent and accordingly takes steam out of your argument.
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>>>No Edward you missed a very important point, that being making a mistake is human, so no one can assure 100% that an innocent guy will not be convicted.
>>>what if that innocent was ur son whould you just say bad luck we was innocent but what the heck it wasn't premeditated murder, the judge an jury didn't pemeditate to kill my son so bad luck, that's life.
>>>But there's no point in pursuing this discussion, since I don't mean to change anyone way of thinking, and for certain no one will change mine.
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>>>>Wrong. You missed a very important point: premeditated murder. Don't worry: you will not be sentenced to death in a case of honest mistake. However, if you plotted to kill someone, prepared to it and killed then don't grudge if you see me on jury bench.
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>>>>>following ur line of thinking then if a innocent person was convicted to the death penalty and only after the penalty was carry out proves where discover that that person was innocent then everyone involve and everyone that convicted that person to death including jury and judge should then be sentence to death also?
>>>>>I would say in you perspective then yes, since they killed a innocent person.
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>>>>>>If I consider that law applied properly then I will support it regardless to personalities. Obviously, I ensure through other means that my kids will never commit premeditated murder and accordingly will not get in this situation.
>>>>>>Basically, I believe in individual responsibility; that's the way to get closer to God.
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>>>>>>>What about if tomorrow is your son condemded to death will you keep supporting the death penalty?
>>>>>>>who are you or anyone else to decide who deserves to live or die? God or a superior entity?
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>>>>>>>>>I would like to see if the person that defends the death penalty would still defende it it the person charged with it was from their family, a son or a close relative.
>>>>>>>>>I always lived by a rule and that was don't do to others what you wouldn't like that others do to you. And with this rule the death penalty doesn't come in, cause I would sure not like that someone would kill me, so in that case how can I say that someone should be kill.
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>>>>>>>>That's pretty lame logics. What if tomorrow you will decide that you like to rob banks? Should we change the law to accomodate your or anyone else wishes?
Edward Pikman
Independent Consultant
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