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Ruling on Mr. Speedie's death
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14/01/2007 14:55:12
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If it's a crime - as the coroner says - then follow the money. We follow it one way - and the insurance company doesn't pay - and the coroners and DA's campaign war chests' get what from who?

Let's follow it the other way.

What kinds of projects was he working on?

They have not proved a thing except that any insurance Drew may have had will not have pay a claim to his estate. Period.

His wife needs to challenge this - she needs a PI or lawyer - this is rediculous.

I am wondering what "book" or statistical data set the coroner and DA cited to support their allegations that someone who fell from a bridge on a snowy road hit the ground in such a way that scientifically proves - visa vi the position of the body - that it was a suicide.

A bear could have moved the bodies - maybe a "terrorist" did! It's BS

>This looks strange in fact. No witnesses and the result (suicide) is this. Now just to be sure on what they said (because of the position of the bodies...) should'nt this be taken more seriously. I mean prove that what they said is pure fact.
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>For example take a couple of dummies (the size and weight of Drew and his son) and drop those from the same bridge. Repeat that dropping 30 times. Look at the position of the dummies on the ground. If the position are exactly the same then their explanations made sense. If not that ruling is mysterious to say the least. But even if the positions are always the same does it really prove the suicide theory.
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>I just hope that his wife will find the strength and the support necessary to go through all this.
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>>Theories aside - the only fact we know is that a murder suicide ruling by the coroner, in which a parent is accused of murder and suicide, means that the insurance companies will not have to pay any benefits.
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>>There are easier ways to do murder suicides than than the, "he took a photo of his son and then pushed him - and then jumped off after him", schtick! Why the theatre! It don't make sense.
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>>Maybe our new eminant domain courts will find a way to transfer Speedies estate to his insurance company for the pain and suffering they experienced as they put together a bribe to get this ruling from the coroner.
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>>And that's all we need to know - no witnesses - no beneficiaries to any insurance Drew may have had on himself and his son will ever be paid.
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>>We live in a corporate police state folks - this is what we voted for in 2000 and 2004. No use complaining - we voted for Judge Dred - the police are now our jurors.
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>>Drew did not kill his son - and then kill himself. Granted - programmers have their share of suiciders - I have known two - they had issues - but they would never have harmed a fly.
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>>Welcome to Corporate Gulag USA. Wake up from you slumber folks - while there is time - or be prepared to queue up at the Soylent Green Factories.
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>>Get active folks - take you government back - Haliburton is building the boxcars and concentration camps as we speak.
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>>Peace.
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>>>My thoughts since this latest news story mirror yours. We will never know for sure but I find it much more plausible that it was some sort of accident than what the investigation concluded. I still don't think they had basis for such a firm conclusion.
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>>>Your theory is quite plausible. Maybe Brent slipped and Drew fell in turn trying to save him. Maybe Drew was chuckling around and accidentally cuased Brent to fall. (In the latter case, I know exactly what I would have done).
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>>>The one thing in the article that did surprise me was the statement that Drew had mentioned suicide. It was as sketchy as the rest of the article so I don't know how much weight to give it. Who did he say it to? What reason(s), if any, did he give? You know how dry his sense of humor could be. It could have been some stranger sitting in a coffee shop at Yellowstone who overheard a conversation and took a joke as serious. Again, we don't know. Tamar and John are right that we never truly know what is in someone else's thoughts. But this finding flies in the face of everything I knew about Drew. He would be about the last one I would expect to do something like that. Like you, I choose to remember the guy I knew.
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>>>>Like others, I find this conclusion incredibly difficult to believe. The article states:
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>>>>"Images recovered from a digital camera show Drew and Brent taking turns posing at the bridge railing. The final photo showed Brent sitting on the top rail of the bridge, facing the canyon away from the road, Smith said." (BTW the link to the article has changed, it's now at http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2007/01/12/bnews/br83.txt.)
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>>>>Clearly sitting on the railing was risky behavior, but it seems reasonable to think Brent may have fallen while trying to get back over the railing to the bridge, and that Drew, like any loving father would, numb with shock and disbelief, jumped to Brent's aid without thinking of his own safety. I guess no one will ever know what really happened, but I knew Drew and that's how I choose to remember him.
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>>>>>Hi All,
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>>>>> I found this today in my paper. I am sorry they say this.
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>>>>>http://www.missoulian.com/articles/2007/01/12/bnews/br09.txt
Imagination is more important than knowledge
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