>>>>>That's how the system works. When doctors are considered a fair game, patients become fair game for doctors.
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>>>>I agree completely, except that I wouldn't call it a system. It's an industry, that's how they call themselves anyway.
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>>>Of course it's a system, but it's a sink and has no output. It takes ill people as input and converts them into money for the doctors. Sometimes there's a bi-product - the odd well person gets output.
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>>It's not a system. It's a bunch of sort-of-independent players. You can't find a single insurer that works in all parts of the country, and no matter how you get involved, YMMV. A system would have same properties no matter where you touch it.
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>Sorry. I thought you were referring to the medical "system".
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>Tell me. DO you have to pay for dentistry for your kids? Once upon a time we didn't pay at all, then dentists got greedy; they were only able to change their Porsches once a year, so they pulled out of the NHS. Some stayed, but you still have to pay (but not as much as private). But kids are free up to, well 16 or 18 - not sure.

It depends what you want to get. If you're looking for a good orthodontist then you would have to pay for sure.
Btw, programmers are greedy too. I saw it many times :).