Tracy,

This is not what I meant. I meant to say that the site shows a bit of american culture that I absolutely hate, because it is hypocrite, dirty mudthrowing and money driven. And made the observation that this type of propaganda actually works in the american society or else ..... {the concolusions a draw}

As stated elsewhere in the thread by others, it is a consequence of american culture.

Walter,




>If only that were true. It should be, but it's not Walter. That statement is full of assumptions Walter. You assume that if congress had not voted to go to Iraq (and let's not forget that they did), then congress would have voted for universal health care. Afterall, the bill has to go through congress and bills are presented by congressmen/congresswomen and never voted on by the public.
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>The reality is that the American people did NOT vote for the war in Iraq to begin with. The American people will NEVER be presented with the option to vote for Universal Health Care.
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>No universal health care bill was introduced through congress that is comparable to that in Europe. If it were, then it is entirely possible that it may in fact have made it through the House and the Senate (and then vetoed by Bush and then HE would have to live that down). With a Republican majority though that would never have happened.
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>Now, given that there is a Democratic majority, it is possible that a bill may be submitted. If it failes, then it may be submitted again in 2009 after the next Presidential election and it may even have a chance if a Democrat wins the Presidency. The chances of passing are slim though. That has NOTHING to do with Iraq.
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>Most Americans would love to have Universal Health Care but most don't believe it can be done here. Mostly because it would require raising taxes and this country is not historically successful at management of large scale systems. I wouldn't even know where to start to point out the past errors in government managed systems. There is too much error and mismanagement of funds going on today in the government for anyone to believe it could be done successfully.
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>Sad, because I believe that it could be done and that it should be done. It will be interesting to watch the next major election and if a Democrat wins, the next 2 years after that.
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>Off subject, I watched Hillary a few times now over the weekend and on morning shows this week. I cannot believe I am writing this, but I actually agreed with 85-90% of her views. I have typically agreed with about 50% of either party over the years, never such a large percentage. If more Americans do as well, she may well have a shot. The primary may change that though if Obama wins it. I am reminded of the last Presidential election - the exit polls pointed towards a democratic win but people were reporting voting differently than they really did because look who won. If Hillary makes it through the primary - she could well win with the majority of voters reporting to pollsters 'I didn't vote for her.'
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>>I'm laughing because of the ridiculous and hypocratic way people are trying to discredit/hurt other people, not because based on facts, but because just their believes or financial motives. It says something about the american society.
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>>I'm crying because appearantly these means are more effective than rationally thinking and looking at facts. If it were not we would not have a civil war going on in iraq, the US citizens would have better health insurance, a safer society, and there would be less poverty over there.
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>>>>www.stophernow.com
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>>>>I keep laughing, though I really ought to cry ...
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>>>I fail to see what is funny.
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>>>Or why you should cry.
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>>>After all, it hardly affects you.