>>>>>Without France we could not have won the revolutionary war. Chances are that we would still be a part of the British Empire.
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>>>>True, and France and the US are both different countries today than they were then.
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>>>As someone said to you yesterday (John R.?), if France is no longer one of our allies we are even more isolated than we thought. IMO we need to shore up our relationships with allies, not cavalierly leave them behind.
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>>I would say that France is more of a perfidious friend, you know like the ones Julius Ceasar had. The UK is our friend, as are Australia, Japan and a few others. France, not so much. They have changed, not us. They are now under control of socialists/communists as is Germany.
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>John, I could not disagree with you more. You are putting it all on our allies and refusing to acknowledge that we have brought this on ourselves. Having met you I don't think this is the attitude you have raised your children with. I am sure they were raised with a code of responsibility. In fact, let me guess -- they disagree with you about Iraq, don't they?

My son-in-law is being deployed to Iraq in March, so I don't think so. I think we have to win the war in Iraq, or we'll be back later.