thanks for all the pointers, i'll check this out. i do recall that win has a lower limit but i thought that this was only on the c drive as i sometimes get it on my laptop and i have to move files between drives before running it.
~M

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>>Commercial defraggers work better in low free space conditions, and they can be tailored to optimize free space if desired. Some also can defrag pagefiles and MFT tables which can be very helpful.
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>Microsoft swallowed SysInternals which had a nice free utility called PageDefrag - Microsoft has it available for download at..
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>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/PageDefrag.mspx
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>Highly recommended!!