>You mean you hard-code the name of the cursor and field you're about to create in its controlsource.
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>Sure. I know what the field names are going to be and the form also needs to know what they are if it is going to do anything with them < s >.

Sure you do. I've always been wary of this, because the grid would be expecting a record source before the cursor of that name had been instantiated. However, given this "safe" method now, and gleaning that the cursor is first created at .Load, I can see how this works.

Cheers Marcia.