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15/03/2007 01:35:07
 
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Forum:
Visual FoxPro
Catégorie:
Autre
Versions des environnements
Visual FoxPro:
VFP 9
OS:
Windows XP SP2
Network:
Windows 2003 Server
Database:
Visual FoxPro
Divers
Thread ID:
01203243
Message ID:
01203862
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Yeah, that old source is an SOB. I can't imagine any single person grokking it and modifying it in a meaningful way. It was hard enough to run debug traces on it :-)

>I talk about the open source suggestion on my blog (http://blogs.msdn.com/yag). Short answer is that the core has IP that can't be released, and it's 18 year old C and C++ code - the community doesn't typically have people to work with that. Think back to your old source.
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>One thing I do disagree with is cost. VB Express, C# Express, and C++ Express are free. So is SQL Server Express. The express SKUs are geared towards developing multiuser desktop apps. Just an FYI.
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>yag
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>>Bring back Dave Fulton! He'd know what to do and how with all this.
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>>With this action MS is leaving thousands and thousands of developers in the lurch. And, I may add, a HUGE number of them in developing countries where even a single license purchase of VFP is a big but somehow still a manageable decision. So buying something like VS 2005 and the associated ecosystem to make it productive and palatable is a HUGE, if not impossible decision for those folks. I bet the majority of them are going to leave MS for Python or some such open source product that, while not as good and polished as VFP, at least can't be yanked away by some big corporation (I know, I know, MS is not exactly "yanking" it away, but rather eventually leaving it to languish until a new Windows version or multicore processor kills part or all of it.) I suppose that sooner or later even the most hard-headed of us will learn to stay away from the VB6's and the VFP's of the MS world, and I for one think that this decision hastens the trend considerably.
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>>And now the "social justice rant": VFP is kind like the hand truck of data management and application development -- it doesn't require much infrastucture, it is affordable, it is easy to learn and maneouver, and it is a **perfect fit** for the types of loads it was designed to carry. For example, You wouldn't dream of telling people in, say, Kenya's countryside that you, as a single supplier of hand trucks, are not going to provide spare parts for their hand trucks any more. Rather, now they are going to have to buy your Mac truck to transport their 10 small baskets of vegetables to the market every day. And, oh by the way, they will also have to learn how to drive the darn thing, which will take them out of the marketplace for quite a long, unsustainable while.
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>>If this is a solid business decision, which it may well be, the **charitable** thing to do would be to simply hand the keys to the handtruck factory to somebody else (Dave? Consortium?), walk away and let them figure out a business and/or a social justice case for it. Just sayin'...
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>>Alan, you have been a great proponent of Foxpro over the years, in and out of Microsoft. Therefore, I'm wondering if maybe just maybe you could consider doing one last push for the community here, since you have Microsoft's ear (or at least some corner of it). And I'm not suggesting that you go begging the Mothership to keep the orphan, but rather letting it loose to fleurish or perish on its own merits.
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>>Pertti
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>>>Hey there - Just wanted to say that I'm reading all these threads. Every time I'm going to reply to one, I find that someone else has already responded in the way I would <g>. I did post a new blog entry at http://blogs.msdn.com/yag/archive/2007/03/14/thoughts-and-comments.aspx which covers major issues I've been reading about here, in blogs, in email and in conversations.
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>>>yag
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John Koziol, ex-MVP, ex-MS, ex-FoxTeam. Just call me "X"
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro" - Hunter Thompson (Gonzo) RIP 2/19/05
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