>>>I take the 23 up to 118 through Simi Valley, join the 210 and get to 15 on the north side of San Bernardino. Traffic is still heavy, but nothing like the 101/404 corridor or anything y'all face down in the mix.
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>>>I just couldn't do that. I've lived in the DC area, the NYC area, and Chicago. I've seen traffic. Nothing holds a candle to LA.
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>>There really is no escape from traffic in LA. It's just cost of living in paradise.:-)
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>Yet it's regarded as the "greenest" state. One where LA is constantly enveloped in smog. i just don't see it.

hmmm... "greenest"? most of the time its brown. :)
To be fair it is very populated here and the smog level is much less then it was in the eighties and the seventies.

I do see a lot of SUVs and truck, and I hate to see a car with busted muffler spewing toxic gas on the roads.

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>>Thomas W. said, evacuation... not a chance.
>>Makes me want to move back to Dallas... although traffic is not much better there eihter.