>>>>>In California a one hour commute is not unusual. In fact you can spend that much time to go 7 miles during rush hour. :)
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>>>>405 to 101 into Agoura Hills and back is one of the worst at rush hour.
>>>>Or from downtown LA to Diamond Bar on 10 is even worse.
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>>>>I hate LA traffic!!!!!
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>>>When I go downtown, I have to go through Agoura Hills to get to the 405.
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>>>It's no picnic from the other way either.
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>>I love the recreation California has to offer, but man it's rush hour 18 hours a day, including weekends. Ever tried to leave town towards the 15 on 10 on a weekend? Fur-git-a-bot-it!
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>The 15 isn't a problem from here, but we start by going AWAY from LA. <g>
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>I take the 23 up to 118 through Simi Valley, join the 210 and get to 15 on the north side of San Bernardino. Traffic is still heavy, but nothing like the 101/404 corridor or anything y'all face down in the mix.
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>I just couldn't do that. I've lived in the DC area, the NYC area, and Chicago. I've seen traffic. Nothing holds a candle to LA.

I was at a client in the LA area a few years ago. It took me nearly as long to go from Calabasas to Century City then it did from Century City to Phoenix! Just keeping that in mind allows me to appreciate that the traffic in Phoenix is not so bad (but it IS getting worse).