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So, what now?
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18/03/2007 09:14:26
 
 
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17/03/2007 21:01:21
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Forum:
Visual FoxPro
Catégorie:
Autre
Titre:
Versions des environnements
Visual FoxPro:
VFP 9 SP1
OS:
Windows XP SP2
Network:
Windows 2000 Server
Database:
Visual FoxPro
Divers
Thread ID:
01204966
Message ID:
01205180
Vues:
25
>>>I've worked with enough businesses to know there's only one thing that counts$$$$$$$
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>>So, that's what drives you too, being the owner of a company? All other reasons you have mentioned to your clients, your friends and yourself are not real, right? Because there is only one real reason: money.
>
>There you go....jumping to conclusions again. I don't understand why you feel you must turn my comments into a personal attack.
>
>Yes, I am in the business to make money. Aren't you?? If that was my only motivation, though, I don't think I'd still be in business. All of my advertising for new business is "word of mouth". I wouldn't get all these good references from my clients if I didn't have their best interests in mind in all our contacts with them and the work that I do for them.
>
>I have also donated thousands of dollars of my time, developing software and supporting software for charitable institutions....for FREE....Have You?

Let's go back to what apparently drove you to make your comment about money as 'the real reason':

Also, in 1959 and many decades thereafter, computer technology was immature. Mistakes were made and many times new conventions had to be decided on. For sake of growing more mature, we had to abandon old technologies to give way to new technologies. We now live in 2007 and the industry has grown more mature. Viable, mature technologies have emerged. Visual FoxPro (while not the ultimate devtool, I admit) is one of them, in my eyes. I can understand a company that decides to kill a product if it comes to the inevitable conclusion that the product sucks in essential ways and is not easy to repair and prepare for the future. So, I asked YAG for the real reasons, but he has not yet taken the time to give the answers.

Commenting on this paragraph in the way you did, didn't help much in what I am trying to accomplish: let MS shed more light on what drove them, what their reasons really are. It is obvious to everybody that money is, or may be, ONE reason. However, stating that it is THE REAL reason, diverts attention from the OTHER reasons. The effect of your comment could therefore have become kind of a killer of this discussion. (And it also showed ample or no respect for my analysis in the paragraph, but I can handle that.)

I felt urged to try to redirect attention to the possibility of OTHER reasons. I hoped to let you realize that money is almost never the only driving force, by reminding you of the fact that you too are a company, as I felt sure that your business motives are money AND others motives. In your reply you have confirmed that. Now let us both assume that MS too has other motives, other reasons, than money alone. It are those reasons we should try to find out. We can figure out some of them, but I rather want YAG to name them.

Please, don't feel attacked by me. It's all not personal at all.
Groet,
Peter de Valença

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